{"id":4476,"date":"2018-08-16T20:26:43","date_gmt":"2018-08-17T03:26:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/membermouse.com\/?p=4476"},"modified":"2020-07-29T16:04:32","modified_gmt":"2020-07-29T23:04:32","slug":"de-zero-a-50-mil-membros-em-um-ano","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/membermouse.com\/pt\/customer-success-stories\/from-zero-to-50k-members-in-a-year\/","title":{"rendered":"De zero a 50.000 membros em um ano"},"content":{"rendered":"Recentemente, tivemos uma excelente conversa com um cliente do MemberMouse chamado Matt Curney. Matt opera um extraordin\u00e1rio site de associa\u00e7\u00e3o chamado <a href=\"https:\/\/pianu.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Pianu<\/a>. Al\u00e9m de criar e desenvolver o Pianu, Matt \u00e9 um pianista de classe mundial (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=8XGvCqEz3Ns\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">Assista a ele arrasando na Moonlight Sonata aqui<\/a>).\r\n\r\nPianu is an interactive piano education resource designed to help anyone learn to play piano. With Pianu, you can plug in a MIDI keyboard to your computer and be playing Beethoven\u2019s Ode to Joy, the Beatles Let it Be, or even the Star Wars theme song within minutes \u2013 <em>tudo a partir de seu navegador<\/em>.\r\n\r\nIn under a year, Matt grew Pianu from 0 members to almost 50,000 members. Here\u2019s what he shared with us from his experience:\r\n<ul>\r\n \t<li>Estrat\u00e9gias de crescimento<\/li>\r\n \t<li>Como converter membros gratuitos em membros pagos<\/li>\r\n \t<li>A gamifica\u00e7\u00e3o dos sites de associa\u00e7\u00e3o<\/li>\r\n \t<li>E mais<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<div class=\"user user-feature\">\r\n\t<div class=\"user-avatar\"><img src=\"https:\/\/membermouse.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/08\/me-smiling-resize.png\" \/><\/div>\r\n\t<h2>Matthew Curney<\/h2>\r\n\t<label class=\"color-blue\">Pianu<\/label>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<!--\/.user-->\r\n\r\n<hr \/>\r\n\r\n<h3><strong>Hist\u00f3rico de Matt<\/strong><\/h3>\r\n<strong>Ol\u00e1, Matt! Muito obrigado por reservar um tempo para falar conosco hoje. Somos grandes f\u00e3s da Pianu. Para come\u00e7ar, poderia nos contar um pouco sobre sua experi\u00eancia?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nCom certeza! Piano \u00e9 minha profiss\u00e3o. Estudei m\u00fasica na universidade e, depois da faculdade, frequentei uma escola de jazz. Toquei e ensinei piano durante meus 20 anos. Durante esse tempo, aprendi a criar sites para bandas e estava apenas mexendo com coisas on-line. Sou totalmente autodidata como desenvolvedor da Web. Por fim, fiquei bom o suficiente para ser contratado como desenvolvedor e trabalhei at\u00e9 chegar ao n\u00edvel de ag\u00eancia. A partir da\u00ed, chegou a hora de combinar minhas duas atividades em uma s\u00f3. A Pianu foi o resultado org\u00e2nico desse processo.\r\n<h3><strong>Origem do Pianu<\/strong><\/h3>\r\n<strong>Qual era sua vis\u00e3o original da Pianu? Voc\u00ea sempre o viu como um neg\u00f3cio baseado em assinatura? Ou isso evoluiu com o tempo?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nThe model for Pianu definitely evolved over time. It took a while to get there. I was so green going into building this business. I knew how to build a good website, and I loved the idea of running my own company, but I really didn\u2019t know anything when I started it.\r\n\r\nThe first version of Pianu wasn\u2019t monetized at all. It was really just an exploration of what I could do with code and a website. After that, we really focused on trying to figure out we could monetize the site.\r\n\r\n<strong>Como voc\u00ea acabou monetizando o site?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nAt first, we were offering a piano lesson course as a one-time $35 purchase. But once I realized that I could create a scalable music library, I saw that I could follow more of a Netflix model with lots of new content. From there, the membership model made a lot of sense for us.\r\n\r\nI feel like now in 2018 especially, the membership model \u2013 <em>em oposi\u00e7\u00e3o ao iTunes \u00e0 la carte ou ao modelo de compra \u00fanica<\/em> - realmente faz sentido para muitas pessoas. H\u00e1 algo poderoso no modelo de assinatura. Os tempos est\u00e3o mudando e as pessoas est\u00e3o mais espertas e mais inteligentes do que nunca para identificar valor on-line.\r\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img class=\"embed-center size-full wp-image-3080\" src=\"https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/wpgcbucket\/wp\/2018\/08\/35ca1e39-site-shot-1.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"548\" \/><\/p>\r\n<strong>Como voc\u00ea transformou a Pianu de um projeto para animais de estima\u00e7\u00e3o em um neg\u00f3cio pr\u00f3spero?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nIt happened organically with consistent effort. I believe that if you really have a reason for what you are doing and stay focused on the product, it naturally gets to a point where there is enough value for someone to pay for it. Through that process, you also attract the kind of people that keep you going in that direction.\r\n\r\nAt the end of the day, you have to deliver value. You have to be focused and really care about your customers. That\u2019s what it comes down to. If you really care about what your customers\u2019 experience is with your site \u2014 what they need, what they want \u2014 it\u2019s really easy. I was watching a Jeff Bezos talk and he said \u201cthe customer will always lead your forward.\u201d This is the approach I\u2019ve taken as opposed to looking at competitors.\r\n\r\n<strong>Voc\u00ea come\u00e7ou a usar o MemberMouse?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nNo. My first attempt at solving the e-commerce\/membership idea was with a different plugin. It was not designed for subscriptions and was an absolute nightmare to use. Support was terrible and I ran into numerous bugs. Once, I updated the plugin and it crashed my entire site.\r\n\r\nWhen I switched to MemberMouse it was like the clouds opening up. I was like \u201cOh, this doesn\u2019t have to be difficult. I don\u2019t have to wait a week for a response to a support ticket.\u201d\r\n\r\nIt really made sense too with the all-in-one subscription business model that I finally landed on. This is what you guys do. So, it was a perfect fit.\r\n\r\n<strong>Um dos aspectos mais atraentes do seu site \u00e9 o fato de que, quando voc\u00ea entra na p\u00e1gina, em 5 segundos j\u00e1 est\u00e1 tocando piano. H\u00e1 algo realmente especial nisso.<\/strong>\r\n\r\nObrigado! Essa \u00e9 uma ideia que me levou um pouco de tempo para descobrir. Mas percebi que o que eu quero que as pessoas fa\u00e7am \u00e9 visitar a p\u00e1gina, pressionar uma tecla e imediatamente ouvir.\r\n<h3><strong>Gratuito vs. Pago<\/strong><\/h3>\r\n<strong>Ao visitar seu site, percebi que voc\u00ea est\u00e1 usando um modelo gratuito para pago. Voc\u00ea torna incrivelmente f\u00e1cil para qualquer pessoa se inscrever em uma associa\u00e7\u00e3o gratuita e, em seguida, oferece op\u00e7\u00f5es pagas no back-end. Como voc\u00ea decide qual conte\u00fado deve ser oferecido gratuitamente e qual deve ser cobrado?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nWhen I first created Pianu, I just wanted to give everyone access to engaging piano education. At the beginning, I gave away a lot for free. We started out with more or less a non-profit mission. But at this point, pretty much every song and lesson are locked up behind the paywall.\r\n\r\nI\u2019m definitely of the mindset that people should get to try a little bit of everything and get a full taste of the site before they pay. I want to give everyone a nice introduction, have them earn a couple of badges, see everything the site has to offer, and then move on to the paid membership.\r\n\r\n<strong>Qual foi sua experi\u00eancia at\u00e9 agora com uma op\u00e7\u00e3o de associa\u00e7\u00e3o paga? Alguma surpresa?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nI\u2019m always surprised by what I find out! It\u2019s an ever-changing ecosystem. Pianu is pretty global \u2014 only about half our traffic is from the United States. It\u2019s funny, sometimes we\u2019ll get a traffic spike from kids in Vietnam. I\u2019ll see all these free signups from kids who are just playing around on the site. Given this, I made sure to keep the interface as universal as possible. There\u2019s not a ton of text on the song pages.\r\n\r\nAnother one of our missions is to give teachers the opportunity to use Pianu in their classrooms for free. So, whenever we do school education outreach, I\u2019ll see a spike in lifetime sales from schools unlocking it.\r\n\r\nIn terms of sales, MemberMouse has really helped me comb through all the data that comes in. I\u2019m getting better at understanding why sales come in when they do.\r\n\r\n<strong>Voc\u00ea faz algum tipo de publicidade para obter tr\u00e1fego para seu site?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nNot yet. We are definitely going to in the future. At this point in our business it seems that we\u2019ve just won the SEO lottery through a lot of hard work. Almost all the traffic that comes to Pianu is free traffic. I\u2019m working hard at getting the site to convert well from any page.\r\n\r\nI\u2019m always trying to see the site from my users perspective. One MemberMouse tool I love is the <em>Fazer login como membro<\/em> feature. I like that I can go to manage members, click on any member and actually log in as that member. When I do that, I actually see my user\u2019s progress: what badges they\u2019ve earned and what songs they\u2019ve learned. Being able to instantly log in as a member is slick. I don\u2019t think I would have attempted to do that if you guys hadn\u2019t built that button.\r\n\r\nI\u2019m very product focused and obsessed with my customers. I spend a lot of time trying to hone the experience for them rather than doing a bunch of marketing. From what I\u2019ve seen so far, the conversions happen for Pianu based on site and product improvements rather than fancy ad campaigns.\r\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img class=\"embed-center size-full wp-image-3083\" src=\"https:\/\/storage.googleapis.com\/wpgcbucket\/wp\/2018\/08\/9e0c6174-site-shot-2.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"548\" \/><\/p>\r\n\r\n<h3><strong>Gamifica\u00e7\u00e3o<\/strong><\/h3>\r\n<strong>Uma das coisas que adoro na Pianu \u00e9 que \u00e9 como jogar um jogo de fliperama. Voc\u00ea poderia falar um pouco sobre o aspecto de gamifica\u00e7\u00e3o do seu site?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nSem d\u00favida. O design baseado em jogos do site foi algo que priorizei desde o in\u00edcio. Acho que vi uma oportunidade de tornar o aprendizado divertido, de tirar Piano da idade das trevas e de faz\u00ea-lo parecer um jogo. A realiza\u00e7\u00e3o resultante da conclus\u00e3o de n\u00edveis e li\u00e7\u00f5es incentiva nossos usu\u00e1rios a continuar aprendendo.\r\n\r\n<strong>De onde veio a inspira\u00e7\u00e3o para isso?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nA inspira\u00e7\u00e3o surgiu ao ver minhas sobrinhas e sobrinhos jogando Guitar Hero. Eu os observava e pensava: \"<em>Gostaria de poder combinar isso com um instrumento real<\/em>.\u201d\r\n\r\nI used to teach piano lessons on the side. It would be hard to keep the kids feeling like they\u2019re making progress. It\u2019s hard to learn to play the piano. So, I\u2019ve learned that keeping people engaged is an important aspect of getting students to stick with it.\r\n\r\n<strong>Voc\u00ea descobriu que a gamifica\u00e7\u00e3o aumentou as convers\u00f5es de membros gratuitos para membros pagos?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nSim!\r\n<h3><strong>Conselhos para os leitores<\/strong><\/h3>\r\n<strong>Que conselho voc\u00ea daria a algu\u00e9m que est\u00e1 come\u00e7ando agora?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nWhen you bring your business live for the first time, it\u2019s never going to be what you think your company is going to be. It sounds funny, but what you think your business is, is not what it is.\r\n\r\nMy advice would be to get something in front of customers as fast as possible because they are quickly going to show you what it really is. Embrace all the feedback you get from your customers. Put yourself in their position and focus on what they need, not what you need.\r\n\r\nStarting a business is a never-ending marathon \u2013 <em>n\u00e3o \u00e9 como uma corrida que voc\u00ea vence<\/em>. Pianu has gone through thousands of iterations, small improvements every single day. The quicker you go live and the faster you can engage in the iterative improvement process, the higher your chances are for success.\r\n\r\nOh, and perfectionism is the killer for sure. It doesn\u2019t have a place in startups.\r\n\r\n<strong>Voc\u00ea tem alguma dica ou truque do MemberMouse para compartilhar?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nI\u2019ve got to call out the reporting suite. It\u2019s one of the best parts of MemberMouse for me.\r\n\r\nBut something I use every day is the activity logs. The logs have been amazing because early on, customer support for Pianu was kind of a nightmare. A customer would send an email upset about a bug they ran into or an error they hit. But now, if I have someone saying, \u201c<em>Cancelei minha assinatura, mas ainda assim fui cobrado<\/em>\u2026\u201d I can pop open the activity log and see exactly when they did it. It simplifies that part to have all that data in one place which I couldn\u2019t find elsewhere.\r\n\r\nOne other thing, the save-the-sale page is killer. That\u2019s something that I\u2019m still working to optimize. When I was working with the other plugin, having no save-the-sale process was a pain point, for sure. When people canceled their membership, I had no way to interact with them at that point.\r\n\r\n<strong>O que voc\u00ea mais observa no conjunto de relat\u00f3rios?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nSou um grande f\u00e3 do relat\u00f3rio de valor m\u00e9dio do cliente. E, obviamente, mantenho o controle sobre as vendas di\u00e1rias e o n\u00famero de inscri\u00e7\u00f5es de novos membros por dia. O que mais observo no conjunto de relat\u00f3rios \u00e9 a receita m\u00e9dia di\u00e1ria e mensal. \u00c9 divertido olhar para tr\u00e1s e ver o crescimento m\u00eas a m\u00eas e ver a rotatividade. Esses tipos de m\u00e9tricas exigiriam muitos c\u00e1lculos para serem conclu\u00eddos sem o MemberMouse.\r\n\r\n<strong>\u00daltima pergunta: O que as pessoas adoram na Pianu?<\/strong>\r\n\r\nAcho que tudo se resume ao fato de que as pessoas adoram tocar suas m\u00fasicas favoritas. As pessoas aprendem a tocar piano porque adoram Adele, Michael Jackson, Elton John ou Ben Folds. Elas querem se conectar com seus artistas favoritos. Foi assim que aprendi a tocar piano e essa \u00e9 a melhor maneira de aprender. <em>atrav\u00e9s das m\u00fasicas que voc\u00ea ama<\/em>. Mas as pessoas tamb\u00e9m adoram que lhes digam \"Bom trabalho\", adoram ser pontuadas e sentir que realizaram algo. Portanto, eu diria que essas duas coisas.\r\n\r\n<strong>Muito obrigado pelo seu tempo, Matt. Foi um prazer absoluto conversar com voc\u00ea e aprender mais sobre a hist\u00f3ria da Pianu.<\/strong>\r\n\r\n<hr \/>\r\n\r\nPara saber mais sobre a Pianu, visite o site da empresa: <a href=\"https:\/\/pianu.com\/about-pianu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">pianu.com\/about-pianu<\/a>\r\n\r\nVoc\u00ea teve sucesso na convers\u00e3o de membros gratuitos em membros pagos ou no uso de gamifica\u00e7\u00e3o em seu site? Gostar\u00edamos muito de ouvir sobre isso! 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